You wonder why we don't learn our lesson. This is no different from what was done in the name of religious fervor in the middle ages. Shop from our collection of high quality, non-GMO vegetables seeds and grow your very own garden vegetables. But it would seem to me that, while the conclusions about what happened in India may have been controversial, something definitely negative happened in India as a result of Monsanto introducing GMO seed. I had already said the same thing in an earlier post, but did not use the word, misquoted and you had no problem with that. Yes, I do have fears about producing GMO seed and tampering with something that the entire life of the planet depends on. The Ferry-Morse Seed Company is a supplier of seeds, and was at one time the largest such company in the world. I dont even have the time to read the above entire article on Monsanto, but a quick scan of the section on Controversies, shows that all over the world, people are fighting against Monsanto because of the ill effect that their association with the company has had. I'm sure that what I've had to say will not be satisfactory to you. I keep my variety! This put it in a whole new positive light on the subject. I've made an attempt to at least present some links to what should be reliable sources of information. Two posters before you objected to how riddled with false information the linked article that forms the basis of this thread is. If you object to my desire to boycott, then you require me to explain my reasons and in doing so, a GMO discussion ensues. 0000536667 00000 n [14][15], In 2021, Central Garden & Pet acquired Green Garden Products and its brand names Ferry-Morse, American Seed, Livingston Seed, McKenzie, NK Lawn & Garden, Jiffy, SUPERthrive, Dyna-Gro and Seeds of Change.[16]. If any of that information is inaccurate, maybe someone on this thread can point out what it is. I would like a list of seed companies that Monsanto owns so I can avoid them. You answer in a round about way. As to me labeling you, no, absolutely not. 522 0 obj <> endobj xref 522 55 0000000016 00000 n Argument: an oral disagreement; verbal opposition. Here is a quote of what I said --, You seem to still want to believe that GMO seed may not be such a bad thing. That being said, I will admit that GE crops are faaaaaaaar from impervious to these same kinds of disasters. Youll have to show me where I have labeled you. prarie, I'll summarize what I found disagreeable (it was your post, quoted below) and hopefully the recap will serve as the explanation you ask for: 1. While it may not be the case for many people here on Gardenweb, there is generally a huge disconnect between the people and their food. And you are right, we're probably not putting a dent in their bottom line. I choose to evaluate products on a case by case basis rather than be preached to by articles (such as the info one that started this thread) or lobbies (such as those sponsored by lawyers on both sides, or lobbies). You are so right. Grow your. From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. All Seeds of Change seeds are 100% Organic and 100% Non-GMO. After the material costs, Monsanto get about $0.02 per year from me and it probably costs them $0.03. It is hard to avoid them though when they are buying up companies left and right. I completely agree with you, that we do dive headfirst into what is considered 'progress' and in the process we let go of what is very valuable and sometimes priceless then only in hindsight, do we acknowledge or understand what we've done. They only bother to genetically modify major commercial crops. Compare $ 1 98. How about law suits against GMO because of damage done? 0000535219 00000 n OK :-) Thank you for telling me the rules. If you repeat the same flaws, I will respond by repeating myself, too. There's plenty of it. Do you usually answer questions with yes or no answers? More selfish motives that ignore what is good for mankind or the natural world, in general. 0000536209 00000 n I haven't bought a herbicide or insecticide. Today Livingston is the number one supplier of top-quality, 100% Non-GMO seeds for independent businesses. Great prices. I take umbrage to that comment. It's rhetorical. The first time I let it slide because you said you hadn't time to read as much as you would like and were unsure about the accuracy of the sources. If this is true, how did that happen? Saying such a tragic thing is like Chicken Little saying the Sky is Falling, as if it were on equal grounds with the gravity of the rest of this. Zinnia Thumbelina Seed. Apr 27, 2014 - Monsanto owned seed brands OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL PERCENTAGES OF SEEDS FROM THEM. I am not an evangelist, simply a critical thinker who keeps their faith to themselves and encourages others to respect the belief of all just not to manipulate others with the sort of false, misleading & manipulative, and incomplete information which activists on both artificially created poles routinely are doing. At SEEDS OF CHANGE, we believe in the power of plants, which is why weve pledged to not only put more plants on the table, but also to put more in the ground. And this article does a great job of explaining why I want to buy seed from these companies. I could write an article stating that the government is doing covert genetic testing on citizens by adding something to the water to make people taller or shorter and people would think it was legitimate, because some random person typed it up and posted it online. And calling my contribution, 'a mess', that you were expected to clean up. I'm trying to avoid their products too. As consumers, we have to bear the brunt of the responsibility for that. I'm simply saying that I don't trust Monsanto. [5] The combined firm became the largest seed distribution company in the world. Crop failures and disasters have been a reality since the dawn of agriculture. I just wish the world could be as calm about it as you and I. So why would I want to continue this conversation? McKenzie products are available in over 4,500 garden centers, independents and major retailers across Canada. 0000019942 00000 n Really, a good rule of thumb is that if an article criticizing GMOs doesn't mention DuPont or Syngenta, they really don't know what they are talking about. You evidently see no need to choose a side, but in making no choice you actually do make a choice. Why would you support that company giving it your money? I have a better idea. And what online source, would be reliable for that kind of information? Ferry Morse Home Gardening Since 1856 | About Us It is your right to have that belief, whether religiously-based, socially-based, scientifically-based, statistically-based, etc. Model# 0020. You are free to say whatever you want and I don't complain or label what you say as a "campaign slogan" or "hollow" which is not respectful. I still do not know what the truth is about what happened in India so it is not possible to discuss it at all, but obviously something very negative happened in India and I would have preferred if you gave a balanced explanation of why you felt that link was incorrect, instead of stating that it was completely debunked, as if that completely clears GMOs and Monsanto from any wrong doing in India. Seed Companies Owned by Monsanto or Sells Monsanto's Seeds